Egodeath Yahoo Group – Digest 172 (2016-10-04)


Group: egodeath Message: 9302 From: egodeath Date: 04/10/2016
Subject: Religious scriptures are psychedelic drug literature puzzles
Group: egodeath Message: 9306 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden
Group: egodeath Message: 9307 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Re: Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden
Group: egodeath Message: 9308 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Re: Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden
Group: egodeath Message: 9309 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Re: Hiatus from posting
Group: egodeath Message: 9310 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Egodeath theory WordPress site
Group: egodeath Message: 9312 From: egodeath Date: 10/10/2016
Subject: Animated statue = perceptual distortion
Group: egodeath Message: 9314 From: egodeath Date: 12/10/2016
Subject: Allegro in 1970 UK Christendom context
Group: egodeath Message: 9315 From: egodeath Date: 13/10/2016
Subject: Bk: The Gnostic New Age (DeConick)
Group: egodeath Message: 9317 From: egodeath Date: 13/10/2016
Subject: The Astrotheology fallacy
Group: egodeath Message: 9318 From: egodeath Date: 14/10/2016
Subject: Re: The Astrotheology fallacy
Group: egodeath Message: 9319 From: egodeath Date: 14/10/2016
Subject: Re: The Astrotheology fallacy
Group: egodeath Message: 9320 From: egodeath Date: 14/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: The Gnostic New Age (DeConick)
Group: egodeath Message: 9322 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9324 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Group: egodeath Message: 9325 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Group: egodeath Message: 9328 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Equivalence of dualism and a dual-attribute creator-god
Group: egodeath Message: 9329 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis
Group: egodeath Message: 9330 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis
Group: egodeath Message: 9331 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: John Allegro’s theory of psychedelic Christianity
Group: egodeath Message: 9332 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Repudiating Copernican, returning to Ptolemaic cosmology
Group: egodeath Message: 9333 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis
Group: egodeath Message: 9334 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Decoded: The Forbidden Fruit
Group: egodeath Message: 9335 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9336 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Price/Ehrman debate on ahistoricity
Group: egodeath Message: 9337 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff article: Entheogenic Esotericism
Group: egodeath Message: 9339 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Group: egodeath Message: 9340 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Group: egodeath Message: 9341 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Elixir as the objective of Hero’s Journey
Group: egodeath Message: 9342 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Cybernetic tarot deck
Group: egodeath Message: 9344 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Group: egodeath Message: 9345 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Group: egodeath Message: 9346 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Group: egodeath Message: 9347 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Group: egodeath Message: 9349 From: egodeath Date: 18/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Group: egodeath Message: 9350 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9351 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Site maintenance
Group: egodeath Message: 9352 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9353 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Psychedelics for mind control and metaprogramming
Group: egodeath Message: 9354 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9355 From: egodeath Date: 20/10/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
Group: egodeath Message: 9356 From: egodeath Date: 20/10/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Group: egodeath Message: 9358 From: egodeath Date: 22/10/2016
Subject: I was the bridge for Acharya/Price
Group: egodeath Message: 9359 From: egodeath Date: 22/10/2016
Subject: Re: I was the bridge for Acharya/Price
Group: egodeath Message: 9360 From: egodeath Date: 22/10/2016
Subject: Re: Price/Ehrman debate on ahistoricity
Group: egodeath Message: 9361 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9363 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Cognitive/mental constructs vs. materialism/dualism/idealism
Group: egodeath Message: 9364 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Re: Psilocybin as an Inducer of Ego Death
Group: egodeath Message: 9365 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Re: 2015 International Drug Reform Conference, entheogen enlightenme
Group: egodeath Message: 9366 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Misc. mythic sh*t: Abbreviation of metaphors

Group: egodeath Message: 9302 From: egodeath Date: 04/10/2016
Subject: Religious scriptures are psychedelic drug literature puzzles
Religious scriptures are psychedelic drug literature puzzles.

The Bible is psychedelic drug literature puzzles.

Thou shalt stand upon a rock. While My glory passeth by, I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with My hand while I pass by.

Exodus 33

9 And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the pillar of cloud descended and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the Lord talked with Moses.

10 And all the people saw the pillar of cloud standing at the tabernacle door; and all the people rose up and worshiped, every man in his tent door.

11 And the Lord spoke unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.

13 Now therefore, I pray Thee, if I have found grace in Thy sight, show me now Thy way, that I may know Thee, that I may find grace in Thy sight; and consider that this nation is Thy people.”

18 And he said, “I beseech Thee, show me Thy glory.”

19 And He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before thee;

20 And He said, “Thou canst not see My face, for there shall no man see Me and live.”

21 And the Lord said, “Behold, there is a place by Me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock.

22 And it shall come to pass, while My glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with My hand while I pass by;

23 and I will take away Mine hand, and thou shalt see My back parts, but My face shall not be seen.”

God put Moses in a rock. To see God, Moses looks out from a cleft in the Eternalism spacetime block.

God, controller x, is the creator of worldline snakes embedded in the Eternalism spacetime rock.

Moses saw God when Moses was a snake embedded in rock.

Religious literature is psychedelic descriptions, analogies.

The classic series of Psilocybin sessions is like what?

Jesus asks: What am I like?

What is {the classic series of Psilocybin redosing sessions} like?

king steering in tree becoming snake embedded in rock

{the classic series of Psilocybin redosing sessions} is like {king steering in tree becoming snake embedded in rock}

{Religious tales and writing and poetry} is like {king steering in tree becoming snake embedded in rock}.

The moment Timothy Leary recognized the Book of the Dead as psychedelic description, the Bible and Greek myth should have been recognized as psychedelic literature.

The Bible is a puzzle game of identifying how various stories are like a series of Psilocybin redosing sessions.

The Egodeath theory has decoded this puzzle in general.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9306 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden
Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden

The Egodeath Yahoo Group has become too hidden.

My writings of 2008-2016 are only visible at the Egodeath Yahoo group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/egodeath

These writings have become invisible through Web search, due to multiple circumstances.

The content is pure gold, but currently the UI is strictly limited to the Yahoo Groups Web UI — giving a tiny lens through which to view this content.

The Egodeath site represents my Egodeath Theory development from 1985 up to 2007 only.

My writings of 2008-2016 explain esoteric religion as transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism, including the 2013 breakthrough of {tree vs. snake = Possibilism vs. Eternalism}.

I critique Letcher and Hatsis, who use the same bad strategy of pretending to dismiss the psychedelic theory of religion, by the ploy of equating Allegro's narrow, particular model (secret fertility cult hiding Amanita use under the figure of Jesus) with the question "To what extent psychedelics in Christianity?"

After publishing The Psychedelic Gospels, which points to the Egodeath site, Park Street Press took down Hatsis' now-disproved writings and videos against the mushroom theory of Christianity, while managing the marketing of Hatsis' book on witches' ointments.

I demonize nondrug meditation: I critique Hanegraaff's desecration of the term 'entheogens' by his attempt to include nondrug meditation as 'entheogenic', when actually meditation is an *anti*-en-theo-gen that serves to suppress and avoid the intense mythic altered state, which comes only through psychedelic drug chemicals, as far as sufficiently ergonomic means.

The Egodeath Yahoo group is the richest hidden treasure trove on the Internet, for psychedelic Eternalism and the mythic altered state.

The esoteric religious tradition is analogical psychedelic Eternalism. Transcending the cosmos, transcending Eternalism (fatedness, heimarmene, preexistence, noncontrol) still centers around a full experiencing and appreciation of Eternalism.

The gnostic and Neoplatonic and early Catholic theological effort to *transcend* Eternalism still remains centered around *understanding* and experiencing Eternalism, in the mythic altered state of consciousness, which is sufficiently accessible only through psychedelics, per the esoteric psychedelic tradition of gnosis.

The Egodeath theory remains the key point of reference for understanding religion, whether 100 CE heyday of Eternalism, or the 200 CE backlash of anti-Eternalism; whether a positive or negative valuation of Eternalism, you cannot understand religion without understanding analogical psychedelic Eternalism.

Without understanding Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, you cannot recover accurate strict critical historiography except at a shallow, inadequate level, producing exoteric incomprehension of development of expressions of esoteric mental dynamics, psychedelic cognitive phenomenology.

I critique Hanegraaff's religion of anti-religionism and show that his two positions he defines (historical scholarship vs. "religionism") fail to engage relevantly with the key of esoteric comprehension, the scientific explanatory theory that underneath the changing surface, down at the cognitive level, religion is transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism.

The 2001-2007 content from the Egodeath Yahoo group is mirrored for easy access at Egodeath.com, but the really leading-edge 2008-2016 content is only at the Egodeath Yahoo group, which recently lost visibility through Web search results.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9307 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Re: Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden
February 14, 2004 – December 31, 2007 — Those posts at the Egodeath Yahoo group are not mirrored at Egodeath.com, but there are updates of the Egodeath theory at Egodeath.com representing that period. 

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com 
Group: egodeath Message: 9308 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Re: Egodeath Yahoo Group too hidden
I haven't checked my email since the end of 2007, 9 years ago.
Group: egodeath Message: 9309 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Re: Hiatus from posting
Hiatus.
Group: egodeath Message: 9310 From: egodeath Date: 09/10/2016
Subject: Egodeath theory WordPress site

Egodeath theory


Group: egodeath Message: 9312 From: egodeath Date: 10/10/2016
Subject: Animated statue = perceptual distortion
Animated statue = perceptual distortion

Contemplating an animated statue, perceptual distortion

I'M A BELIEVER, I AIN'T NO DECEIVER
MOUNTAINS MOVE BEORE MY EYES
DESTINY PLANNED OUT I DON'T NEED NO HANDOUT
SPECULATION OF THE WISE.

The rock statue viewed in the psychedelic mythic state has perceptual distortion. As walls breath and you walk on waves on the carpet, the rock statue moves.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9314 From: egodeath Date: 12/10/2016
Subject: Allegro in 1970 UK Christendom context

Allegro in 1970 UK Christendom context

To understand John Allegro's half-baked "secret illicit deviant sex-Amanita cryptic fictional-Jesus" theory, don't read his book The Sacred Mushroom & the Cross; read John King's book:

A Christian View of the Mushroom Myth

John King

King's book is a messed-up book about Allegro's messed up theory, both books written by confused rigid thinkers in the strange 1970 mainstream culture of UK Christendom, requiring a study in itself, including the late-1960s generation gap, free love, and that the 1950 expected demise of Christianity didn't happen.

King mentally projects his cultural moment as mainstream seemingly monolithic uniform Christianity throughout history, as if there were 2000 years of 1970 mainstream unanimous Protestant Christianity and no other version is part of tradition. 

You'd never know that there was INNOVATION and revolutionary criticism within mainstream Christian history: King pretends as if Protestants never rejected and deviated from paganism-absorbing Roman Catholicism.  

John King pretends that Allegro is the first person ever to question "the mainstream traditional understanding of Christianity" in 2000 years, which has always had peaceful unanimous agreement — until Allegro in 1970.

For John King, "traditionally understood Christianity" means 2000 years of uniformly 1970-type mainstream protestantism (exoteric of course).  

King has a 1 dimensional view of Christianity and is equally narrow and anti-imaginative regarding potential variant theories.  

According to King and Allegro and UK Christendom in 1970, we must either:

o  Wholesale accept Allegro's particular theory of {encrypted sex-Amanita Christianity}, as-is.

– or –

o  Entirely reject Allegro's theory in all aspects, and adhere — wholesale, as-is — to the single uniform monolithic standard version of Christianity that everyone has held for 2000 years without ever any novelty, change, or variants: 1970-type, mainstream Protestant or Catholic "tradition" as seen through a uniformity-lens of 1970 England. 

Those are the two candidates; there are no potential variants. 2 options, winner take all, one position is all true and the other is all false. 

Letcher Hatsis soaked himself in this bizarrely narrowing mindset by reading too much Allegro's 1-dimensional writings and the 1970 England monoculture's 1-dimensional reaction: all parties obsessed with reducing Christianity to social sex control. 

For Letcher Hatsis just as for Allegro and his 1970 audience, there are only two options, two option-packages, two assumption-sets: either:

o  Christianity is true (per normal, traditional, uniform, mainstream Christianity)

– or –

o  Christianity is a lie based on encrypted aphrodisiac-Amanita posing as the Jesus figure precisely per Allegro's particular conception in his singular elaborated model. 

Who is right?  Allegro's theory, or the traditional view?  Is Christianity true, or a deception based on misunderstanding of encrypted sex-Amanita? 

These aren't people wiggling and finessing explanatory theory-variants into place to gain understanding; this is a matter of staking out two positions and fighting between them like crass internet fanboi flaming. One side is all good, one all bad. 

 King's language — just like Allegro's — is charged, loaded, extremist, sensationalist, brittle.

Where King (or Allegro) talks about "mainstream traditional Christianity", he ought to instead talk in terms of *exoteric* Christianity; the usual normal exoteric misunderstanding of religion and failure to grasp esoteric religion, which is Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Allegro is nowhere near psilocybin Eternalism, the intense mythic altered state, the Eternalism state of consciousness.  

Allegro and his 1970 England audience and the 1970 writings of Letcher Hatsis are all stuck at encrypted sex-Amanita, trapped in their dead end, not headed toward transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism.

John Allegro was right about:

mushrooms in Christianity 

no historical Jesus

Allegro was wrong about: 

o Ignoring psilocybin mushrooms. 

o  Treating Amanita as aphrodisiac. 

o  The Jesus figure and the New Testament were written for the purpose of encrypting knowledge of the Amanita aphrodisiac. 

o Only the very first Christians understood Eucharist as Amanita. There is no evidence of later continuation of the Amanita Eucharist — such as, a painting of a mushroom tree… like shown in Allegro's book. 

There is a tangled knot of fallacies in Allegro, that is a product of his brief cultural moment 1968-1970.  

You can't discuss Allegro's notion of ahistoricity of Jesus without also criticizing his notion of the *purpose* for creating the fictional Jesus figure, which is tangled together with Allegro's notion of "the" mushroom being Amanita (vs. Psilocybin, vs. "mixed wine" as lotus and opium and cannabis and henbane and psilocybin).  

Allegro and his audience work hard to keep these as two, competing knots — rejecting the possibility of thinking in terms of variants.   

Either Allegro's 10 interlocked notions are the case, or, "mainstream Christianity's" 10 interlocked notions are the case.  

There is no possibility of any combinations other than these two monolithic knotted clusters, including motivations for hiding sex-Amanita use behind the fictional Jesus figure.

The entire 1970 (1960s) culture is to blame for creating this misconception/fixation on Sexianity.

The whole mainstream was degenerate in reducing Christianity to merely {social sex control}, as Alan Watts noted. 

Allegro and the 1970 culture into which his book was received, he was a product of his time. 

Freud = Victorian sex-fixation backlash

Allegro = the 1970 Sexianity backlash

 Sexianity = Christianity reduced to only sex. That was the culture of 1970. 

All those 1970 people — Allegro, priests, lay consumers, journalists, literateurs– all were astoundingly rigid in their thinking: either there was a monolithic uniform Traditional Christianity consensus, or, Allegro's *particular* theory emphasizing mushrooms-as-sex trying to hide from the authorities; as if the ultimate mystic revelation is of Amanita *as aphrodisiac*.  

Allegro is severely reductionist, in keeping with the 1970 UK mainstream Christendom monoculture which produced his half-baked, over-elaborated, sex-fixated model of what "Amanita in Christianity" is about. 

To Allegro, psychedelics are… no, Alllegro has no concept of 'psychedelics', in practice, or he sees no benefit in leveraging other plants for his purpose of discrediting (wholesale) Christianity. 

Allegro's strategy: How to leverage Amanita to bring down Christianity? 

Connect Amanita with covert illicit 1968-style drug Prohibition (governor Reagan & president Nixon projected back in time to 30 CE) together with the Free Love sexual revolution of 1970, projected back onto primitive Christians.  

We in 1970 hide drug use; so the apostles had to hide their drug use. 

Allegro's book and King's response book tell us little about Christian origins and alot about late 60s popcult. 

Allegro and his audience within 1970 UK Christendom fully agree that there is a single monolithic entity, "traditional mainstream Christianity", which has always thought just like the 1970 UK audience.

This 1970 UK Christendom culture, including Allegro and King, is completely weird and alien now, operating from within a peculiar 1970 cultural moment.  

John King often grossly mischaracterizes Amanita, as "the" Christian mushroom, and as "addictive", and as "toxic".  

Malapropisms abound, in a dense knot.

Actually, Amanita is not "the" Christian mushroom; Amanita is not addictive, and Amanita is not toxic except in a weak sense.

Amanita is notable because of its lurid sex potential.  

Letcher Hatsis conflates the overall general {psychedelic theory of religion} with the particular Allegro theory of "stealth Amanita sex cult" as if there can be no variant theory of mushrooms in Christianity other than this particular theory that puts total emphasis on the illicit-secrecy motive and Amanita sex cult.

Allegro = Freud in 1970 and his audience. 

Allegro = 1970 Victorian titillation. 

Allegro copies Freud's move. 

Allegro misled people away from proper psychedelic religious history and Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism. 

Allegro and his culture remained firmly within Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism, because of their reduction of psychedelics to sex in the 1970 version of Christendom, which reads as an alien culture now. 

Allegro was embedded in the limited thinking of his time. Letcher Hatsis follows that rigid thinking, 1970 style. 

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com 


Group: egodeath Message: 9315 From: egodeath Date: 13/10/2016
Subject: Bk: The Gnostic New Age (DeConick)
Bk: The Gnostic New Age (DeConick)

The Gnostic New Age: How a Countercultural Spirituality Revolutionized Religion from Antiquity to Today
April DeConick
http://amazon.com/dp/0231170769
September 27, 2016

5 of 5 stars.

The New Age author Tim Freke asserts no-free-will, psychedelic esoteric tradition, and ahistoricity, a step toward Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism.

Characterize the book with reference to:

ahistoricity of Jesus and gang

gate, gated guarded garden walls, city walls with gate, snake guard, banquet bouncer horses

frenzy, furies, madness, ecstasis, mania, psychotomimetics, centaurs smell psychedelic wine and go out of control at the religious trip party THAT THE GOD FORCES HIS PUPPETS TO ATTEND (against the arbitrary bias that "meditation/contemplation is modest and natural and traditional, but taking psychedelics is hubris and artificial and human effort").

gnosis, experiencing/experiential, loose cognition

Eternalism, worldline snake, rock

Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism

ASC, altered state, psychedelics, drugs, psychoactives, ointment, annoint, elixir, drunk, drink, eat, Eucharist, potion

Fate, fatedness, preexistence, Eternalism, no-free-will, block universe, heimarmene

Noncontrol, chaos, panic, seizure

snake, serpent, dragon

gate, paradise garden

weak unsystematic Fate, worldline Eternalism snake

drugs — minimal but correct suggestive coverage

ahistoricity — HJ. Unimaginative and naturally literalist; exoteric esotericism.

_______________________

The equivalence of:
affirming & reconciling with Eternalism
vs.
radically transcending Eternalism

Actually the same thing:
Affirming Eternalism
Transcending Eternalism
Reconciling with Eternalism

When you pass through the astral gate and stand on the heimarmene sphere, head in the divine realm, you are in Eternalism/fatedness/prison/rock/heimarmene, a puppet. This can be experienced and described as release and freedom.

"Affirming" and "transcending" and "reconciling with" Eternalism are the same thing, unless transcending no-free-will regresses back into mere deluded egoic Possibilism freewill thinking, losing access to stable experiential knowledge of psychedelic heimarmene.

Gnostics demonize Eternalism like egoic freewill Possibilism, but you can't transcend Eternalism like you can transcend Possibilism.

You transcend Possibilism to gain gnosis of Eternalism.

You transcend Eternalism to gain gnosis of hyper-Eternalism, which produces reconciliation with Eternalism — not actually the advertised radical transcending of Eternalism.

Gnostics affirmed Eternalism inside the boundary of the heimarmene sphere of fixed stars, even as they negatively valued Eternalism.

Gnostics affirm Heimarmene at and within the sphere of the fixed stars.

Gnostics didn't *deny* fatedness/ noncontrol, they affirmed and demonized fatedness.

Gnostics and Neoplatonists and early Catholics were all on an egoic freewill recovery mission, carrying the peril of regression into deluded freewill thinking.

For both
{affirming heimarmene and reconciling with it},
and for
{affirming heimarmene and demonizing it as a revealed prison and claiming to step beyond and outside the fate-controlled Ptolemaic cosmos [a likely prelude to regression back into reincarnating into egoic freewill delusion]},
either way, the Egodeath theory is the requisite point of reference, especially when the Theory is mapped to {Ptolemaic astral ascent mythicism}.

Gnostics claimed to transcend the cosmos and fatedness, flying through the fate-demon-serpent-guarded gate.

Each celestial sphere and the astral sphere have a serpent demon guarded gate.

When you rise up through a gate in the game, take off more clothing.

DeConick asserts Essentialism from cognitive ASC origins, with oft implication of psychedelics.

This book gives further confirmation that gnosis = transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9317 From: egodeath Date: 13/10/2016
Subject: The Astrotheology fallacy
The Astrotheology fallacy

Psyber barely acknowledges the "myth refers to celestial and astrological elements" theory of myth.

https://cyberdisciple.wordpress.com/evaluating-theories-of-mythology/

A major school of thought from the 90s (1890s) is astrotheology; "theology refers to astronomy (planets and sun and stars)".

eg.:
http://www.starlarvae.org/Star_Larvae_Astral_Religion.html

Per the Egodeath theory:

Myth refers to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism (ie. transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism)

In religion,
* {planets and sun and stars} refers to {Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}.
* {other myth} refers to {Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

Wrong theory held by astrotheology scholars:

{other myth} refers to {planets and sun and stars}

That's literalism, "{surface metaphor domain A} really refers to deep domain B, which is {planets and sun and stars}".

Actually planets and sun and stars is not a deep-referent domain, but is merely yet another surface metaphor domain.

The only deep ultimate referent destination appropriate for religious experiential revelation and mental transformation is Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism (ie. transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

Ptolemaic astral ascent mythicism refers to (ie., is description-by-analogy of) the referent {transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

{planets and sun and stars} is never the real ultimate referent; it's always merely the metaphor/encoding/symbol/analogy/surface.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9318 From: egodeath Date: 14/10/2016
Subject: Re: The Astrotheology fallacy
The potential low vs. high meanings of 'mythicism'

The negative version of 'mythicism' is crass debunking (offbase, reductionist):
x is just a myth, not real; doesn't exist. Brittle binary crude thinking, helpless at creating variant scenarios.

Unsophisticated question:
Does X exist, yes or no?

Sophisticated question:
What is the nature of X? (including suitable context)

What is a Mythicist?
Acharya S
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/mythicist.html

Ptolemaic astral ascent mythicism

Hanegraaff asserts Katz/Contextualism (anti-Essentialism; against a universal uniform cognitive basis of mystic experience… such as:

Psychedelic Mystic Essentialism:

Psychedelics universally induce loose cognitive binding, which universally causes experiential thoroughgoing cognitive transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

The mind has a universal cognitive climax ecstasy panic seduction capability, ability, potential — like climax creating new life.

{Eternalism}
means
{transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism}
means
{transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}
means
{a series of psychedelic redosing sessions progressively inducing}: {transformation of the mental worldmodel (of steering-in-world) from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}

Despite his Katzian Contextualism, elsewhere, Hanegraaff asserts an Essentialism or Religionism: he asserts there's no difference between:
mysticism
gnosis
ecstasy
inspiration

Essentialism says there's a distinct detectable layering:

universal esoteric core vs. locally-varying exoteric customizations

Functionality vs. UI

depth vs. surface

app vs. UI skin

product vs. branding

Before the Enlightenment, domains were 99% overlapping, anchored by transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

After the Enlightenment, domains 1% overlap, anchored by nothing.

In effect, the Enlightenment is a matter of separating domains.

Before the Enlightenment, domains were fused, anchored by gnosis (psychedelic transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism).

During the Enlightenment, domains were separated, and gnosis declined, until 1988, when gnosis was born anew not from some Hanegraaffian "religionism", but from within a late-Modern distinctively Engineering background basis.

As well as from my complex religious background and unique rich resources. I grew up flipping through Man, Myth, & Magic; etc.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9319 From: egodeath Date: 14/10/2016
Subject: Re: The Astrotheology fallacy
Quit screwing around theorizing that the target referent of religious myth is anything other than transformation from Possibilism to Eternalism.

The only deep ultimate referent destination domain that is appropriate for religious experiential revelation and mental transformation is Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism (ie. transformation of the mental worldmodel from Literalist Ordinary-state Possibilism to Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism}.

COVERT NORMATIVE VALUE AGENDA of the Egodeath theory:

The sun, planets,stars, social concerns, ordinary-state profane mundane concerns are not an appropriate target domain for religious revelation.

That we have ego-undermining *noncontrol* frozen in preexisting spacetime (heimarmene, fatedness, dread Eternalism) *is* a suitable target meaning-referent of the riddling religious mythology.

However much psychedelics are in our own religion and culture, God leaves us with the question: why didn't the Creator create more worldline snakes that contain more ingesting of psychedelics?

Had that happened, God would destroy separate egoic agency.

God shields our eyes and veils for a time the cybernetic truth, so that we may be in the form of as virtually independent, free steering-agents in an open-future, possibility-branching world.

Enlightenment sucks, bad: many people despise Heimarmene imprisonment revelation and prefer delusion, God shields their eye from seeing the terrible jewel of truth the dragon guards.

People hate and desire the truth, cybernetic preexistence of steering and tripping over the desired horrific gnosis.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9320 From: egodeath Date: 14/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: The Gnostic New Age (DeConick)
April DeConick interview, on Aeon Byte show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4RE3ljcLIk
Start at 13:40

Book:
The Gnostic New Age: How a Countercultural Spirituality Revolutionized Religion from Antiquity to Today
April DeConick
http://amazon.com/dp/0231170769
September 27, 2016

Group: egodeath Message: 9322 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
At Amazon UK, this book is planned for release October 20, 2016.

Group: egodeath Message: 9324 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)

Reviewer Avery wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/Esotericism-Academy-Rejected-Knowledge-Western/product-reviews/1107680972

 

This is an excellent work of
historiography, the art that Oswald Spengler deemed the only intellectual
possibility remaining to Western civilization.

 

A thorough review of how the words
"esoteric", "occult", and "magic" came into
employment in the languages of Western Europe, it ignores entirely the content
or meaning of the texts that were given such labels.

 

Indeed, we should not expect
Hanegraaff to touch upon such topics.

 

When he chose to write a book for
Cambridge University Press in the 21st century, he was robbed of his ability to
speak of texts as possessing meaning in and of themselves, as opposed to
historical interest.

 

But the book that resulted from this
Faustian bargain is still great reading as history and good food for thought
for religious scholars young and old.

Hanegraaff uses this "radical historicism" to probe into the
uncomfortable relationship between Christian universalism and the wisdom
traditions of other ecumenes, notably its intellectual forefathers Plato and
Aristotle and their late classical interpreters, but also including Brahmins,
Druids, Egyptians, and everyone else the writers were aware of.

 

How does one tell stories that are
not the universal (catholic) story?

In the first chapter, Western Christianity (pre-Reformation) ends up presenting
God as hiding himself to the non-western traditions; a sort of secret, Gnostic
God for the Jews and pagans who only becomes publicly knowable in the person of
Christ.

 

Considering that the point of
orthodoxy in the first place was to preserve faith in God from the evils of
Gnosticism, this was unpalatable to many late medieval writers.

 

The second chapter presents their
equally dubious alternative: that pre-Christian and neoplatonic philosophy was
per se heretical.

 

Taking up this assumption leads us to
the unfortunate conclusion that the Church Fathers all across the Mediterranean
were misled by heresy.

 

This of course became a favored line
of Protestant attack, and by the late 17th century this gives rise to the
modern category of "esotericism," into which the dream of the
philosophia perennis was shoved.

 

But this category was founded by
radical Protestants, on the implausible premise that there were absolutely no
lines of dialogue between ecumenes except for the corruption of God's truth by
human or Satanic philosophy.

 

Hanegraaff dubs this
anti-apologeticism and it becomes the standard academic response; the third
chapter of the book is devoted largely to how the resulting construction of
"esotericism" became more ornate as it solidified.

When we enter the 20th century, though, the book's project starts to unravel,
something that has been noted by other reviewers.

 

If I were reviewing this book for a
formal publication I could go on for several pages about why I think this is
so.

 

Lacking such an invested audience, I
will just attempt a little radical historicism of my own.

 

Today's "academies" of
religion developed out of these anti-apologetic schools of Protestant theology
that sought out the truth specifically by throwing into the wastebasket all the
man-made teachings that they knew to be false.

 

The development of "esotericism
and the academy" after the Protestant era, then, is also about the
transformation of Western elite opinion about religion as a whole.

 

Over many decades, the bold
proclamation of belief in God, Christ, angels and devils was whittled away into
nothing.

 

Once all the teachings were equally
in the wastebasket, it is not surprising that some religious scholars, for some
reason or another, got particularly interested in the reason the wastebasket
was invented in the first place.

The result is a chapter differing in tone from the rest of the book, that
contains many valid points such as a severe and accurate critique of Mircea
Eliade, but is presented in the form of an inexorable progress towards
historicism, deviation from which is completely intolerable to the author.

 

We should not be surprised that
Hanegraaff quotes at length Henry Corbin's rather cogent argument that
historicism is meaningless and irrelevant to the quest for esoteric knowledge,
and then cannot manage any reply other than the harried statement that it is
"pointless to judge Corbin's work by the criteria of academic
historiography", and later, "such normative judgments may be
appropriate for philosophers or theologians, but cannot be supported on the
basis of historical evidence."

 

Hanegraaff is reduced to throwing up
his arms and quite literally asking "quid est veritas?", because in
his position as a 21st century Western academic he is unable to turn his eyes
towards the content of esoteric knowledge.

I am not very eager about the conclusion of the book, where Hanegraaff, despite
himself (specifically, despite his careful takedown of Frances Yates in the
previous chapter), becomes weirdly excited about the possibilities opening up
for researching what he calls "the polemical Other of modernity", and
later indicates by the telling word "gnosis".

 

I cannot claim to know what the
historical study of such currents will open up for the de-Christianized academy.

 

Instead of reading the conclusion,
though, I would recommend that the reader turn back to the well-designed cover
of the book, which shows a scholar with his head in his arms, being attacked by
owls and other creatures that he seems to be trying to keep away.

 

I am befuddled that the book's final
chapter continually refers to two people named "Guénon" and
"Evola" as if the reader is meant to know who they are, usually
without supplying the first names of these two gentlemen, and without ever
describing their beliefs in the body of the text.

 

One gets the definite sense that
these names are Dionysian ghosts being consciously suppressed from the
Apollonian bent of the narrative, and it pleases me to think of them as the
owls on the cover.

 

/ Avery

________________________________________

 

John
G. Bardis
commented about Avery's review:

 

Rene Guenon, along with Fritzoph
Schoen, was a founder of the so-called Traditionalist movement. A big part of
this movement was to call into question the arrogance of the West in regard to
Islam, Hinduism, etc. The movement was to some extent discredited by the rise
of Islamic terrorism. 

Julius Evola imagined himself to be a follower of Guenon. He was an Italian and
a great admirer of Mussolini.

Both Guenon and Evola, and Schoen as well, wrote a good many very interesting,
highly recommended books.

Guenon, by the way, hated the great esoteric master of the 20th century,
Gurdjieff–both living at the same time for a while in France.

 

/ Bardis

Group: egodeath Message: 9325 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)

Esotericism and the Academy: Rejected Knowledge in Western Culture

Wouter
Hanegraaff

http://amazon.com/dp/1107680972

2012 (same year as his article _Psychedelic Esotericism_)

 

On the cover, the owls which
Hanegraaff is avoiding looking at are gnosis and Dionysus religionism — the
Egodeath theory of Analogical Psychedelic Preexistence/noncontrol/imprisonment
in block time. 

 

Radical historicism vs. esoteric
cognitive-based gnosis.

 

Who knows where Hanegraaff presently
stands?  One day he tries to exorcise esoteric
cognitive-based gnosis from the study of "esotericism" (his scare-quotes).  Everyone says wot the fok.  The next day, he asserts esoteric
cognitive-based gnosis, maybe even dread villain Religionism is now permissible
too!  Only Hanegraaff the Lawgiver knows
where he stands at the moment.

 

Hanegraaff defensively *asserts*,
now, esoteric cognitive-based gnosis, after universally being criticized by
everyone and losing control of the esotericism parade he was leading until this
misstep, now he's on the defensive, rightly so — he's wrong to be proud to be
an exoteric ignoramus. 

 

No one accepts Hanegraaff's
definition of the field of esotericism historiography as being inherently
restricted to exotericism. 

 

We're all like, who the F says?! and
what the F does that even *mean*, "inherently restricted to
exotericism"?!

 

What would it mean, for recovery of
the history of scholarship about esotericism to be "inherently restricted
to an exoteric approach"? 

 

If Hanegraaff reads my writings about
Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism, is he doing religionism? 

 

Is Hanegraaff vioating the rules of Strict
Critical Historiography when he is tripping while thinking in an esoteric
manner? 

 

Hanegraaff fails to define the rules
of his game — his poor students! 

 

Hanegraaff commands his students to
avoid Religionism, which he defines in a vague broad way and also in a narrow
over-specific way, defining 'religionism' differently every time, scattered through
all his writings. 

 

Hanegraaff commands his students to
study the history of psychedelics in what can be called "esotericism"
throughout history going all the way back to 1800.

 

Where is the boundary between an
esoteric vs. exoteric approach to doing historical research that accurately
recovers the history of academic storytelling about the history of what can be
called "esotericism"?

 

 

Hanegraaff calls for strict critical
historigraphy; an inherently exoteric (not esoteric) approach to doing
historical research that accurately recovers the history of academic
storytelling about the history of what can be called "esotericism".

 

It is impossible to know what
Hanegraaff presently believes, now that we suddenly have a different person,
the post-LSD (figuratively speaking) Hanegraff, with his 2012 article
_Psychedelic Esotericism_ singing a different tune, just like Faivre's
religious conversion from religionism to Strict Critical Historiography.

 

Hanegraaff is singing a different
tune, since everyone vehemently rejected his attempt to exorcise gnosis and the
universal Essentialist cognitive basis of religious experiencing.  Now the later Hanegraaff has no choice but to
contradict the earlier Hanegraaff. 

 

Hanegraaff lost leadership of the
parade he had been leading. 

 

Hanegraaff got universally voted
down, in cognitive Essentialist Religionist universalist fashion.  His position doesn't even make sense; it is
— like all — filled with self-contradictions, vagueness, unresolved conflicts
of Hanegraaff vs. Hanegraaff.

 

— Professor Loosecog, head exorcist, University
of Transcendent Knowledge
    

Group: egodeath Message: 9328 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Equivalence of dualism and a dual-attribute creator-god
Equivalence of dualism and a dual-attribute creator-god

Jeffrey Burton Russell
Satan: The Early Christian Tradition
http://amazon.com/dp/0801494133/
Excellent treatment of the problem of dualism.

There are two options:

o 2 powers in heaven: an all-good God outside the fate-ruled cosmos, who is innocent of creation of good or evil or anything; together with a creator-god, the demiurge, Satan as powerful ruler *inside* the fate-ruled cosmos, presenting a real challenge to the ultra-transcendent God.

o 1 power in heaven; God is the author of evil and delusion, and is the author of good and enlightenment.

God *can* be all-good, and not be the author of evil — *if* you have also an independent power *not controlled by God*. Merely *hyper* Calvinism, is a form of Arminianism (unlike my superior theory, which is hyper-hyper-Calvinism).

Incompatible attributes of God (who is both Creator and ultra-transcendent ie. not ruled by Fate):
o All good.
o All powerful.

In dualism, God is all-good, but not all-powerful.

Satan has independent power which God lacks.

Satan ~= egoic Possibilism delusion.

One power is God.

The other power is Satan aka egoic steersman control into an open future that doesn't exist until ego makes the steering choice.

The independent power is the Demiurge or Satan, who is the author of evil.

This devolves back into ego as a virtually separate Creator of one's future, an independent power-source, a steersman who makes the open future become one path or another path, either which the steersman could've steered into.

Dualism says there is a separate radically transcendent all-good god, who is not involved with the cosmos/universe.

In her October 2016 Aeon Byte interview, April DeConick asserts that Paul asserts that the high god *is* JHVH; it's a denial of dualism.

The New Testament is a principled collection of books that, in its real core, rejects the paranormal and supernatural, and restricts the joking analogies to those analogies which resolve by rejecting the supernatural.

For example, the New Testament (which is secretly restricted to rational encoded and rationally resolvable analogies) Jesus "controls demons", but only to the (rational) extent that Jesus only commands the demon to *leave* the mind — not to do other work for Jesus, such as "make the desired girl be in love with me".

Jesus can only command the demon to *leave*, to *be gone* and stop causing control-chaos seizure-threat.

Jesus is only capable of commanding the demon to do one particular action: be gone; no longer exist or effectively seem to exist.

Jesus' magic reveals (rationally) that the demon only existed virtually, as an illusion of a separate independent power-source exerting steering power into an open, nonexisting future that depends on the demon's steering-control.

The New Testament is not dualistic.

The Creator *is* the hyper-trascendent God, JHVH, the god of the Jews, of the Hebrews, of Moses, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob's line.

Those who demonstrate noncontrol in such a way as to sustainability into future rightly devout generations.

Gnosis must not require acting out noncontrol — God's angel stays Abraham's hand.

When Abraham has God-thinking, Abraham receives the angelic thought, that mental demonstration of noncontrol suffices but that God preserves the aware initiate, else realizing truth would require termination of life which is killing gnosis.

To have gnosis you must stay alive and practically viable across time, Abraham having offspring generations to worship Creator God in righteousness, right thinking about virtually independent control steering power into the virtually open, virtually nonexisting future.

Exoteric Theology is the impossible, irrational, egoic project of making God both all-powerful and all-good.

Dualism:
God is all-good, the lower Demiurgic god is all-bad, and the ultra-transcendent God is not responsible for the Demiurge.

The alternative is a god who is not all-good insofar as God created the world and thus is the author of evil.

A non-dualistic God is the author of the delusion of separate steersman-self in a virtually "open", "branching" future.

The house metaphor, the natural metaphor utilized by the Egodeath theory in 1988-2016 is, a superuser in God mode is the user of a VR app.

This god/user sets the virtual-world creation parameters: the more mushrooms you put into people's worldline snakes, the weaker the separate-self drama.

You are a poor virtual-world creator (a parameter-setting user of the VR app) if the world you create is so awakened to puppet imprisonment in the Minkowski spacetime rock block, that your world contains no {independent-steering-in-branching-future} delusion/drama.

The only way to have a society shaped as creatures independently steering into an open future, is to suppress psychedelics, to not include psychedelics very much in many worldline-snakes.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9329 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis
Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis

Traditionalism is too favorable about the ancients' grasp of Transcendent Knowledge.

People before the Modern era suck at differentiation; philosophy is conflated and fused and tangled with Religion, esotericism, Physics, medicine, astrology, psychology.

Yes, there is gnosis buried in there, because this fused, massive monodomain does have psychedelic inspiration but it's too figurative, obscured, veiled, everything means everything else in a big tangled mass.

Next, the Enlightenment around 1675 tore and severed all domains from each other, separated. Physics is way over here, fully isolated and separated from Religion, isolated from Psychology, Chemistry, Theology, Mysticism.

Steven Katz' post-Modern Contextualism folly, simply continues the modern hyper-differentiation.

Hanegraaff too, would tear apart every instance of the mystic state, with Katz, overly honoring the unique differences between each instance of mystic state experiencing, in pomo fashion.

We want to honor each distinctive individual instance of mystic-state experiencing, so we will *deny* the common cognitive Essentialist trans-historical basis, we will deny that every instance of mystic-state experiencing is basically the same at the core, despite the differing branding of each instance.

This is not to say anything favorable about Robert Forman's theory-construct, the "Pure Consciousness Event (PCE)". I'm arguing for Essentialism (against Katz' Contextualism); I'm not arguing that the Pure Consciousness Event is what importantly unites all instances of the the intense mythic altered state.

Where Forman says "PCE", I instead say the right thing, "Loosecog".

Forman says what importantly unites all instances of the the intense mythic altered state is the *Pure Consciousness Event*.

Hoffman says what importantly unites all instances of the the intense mythic altered state is *loose cognitive association binding* induced by psychedelics, in a series of psychedelic trips transforming the mental worldmodel of steering-in-world from Possibilism to Eternalism (heimarmene, block universe, preexistence of future control-thoughts, monopossibility, noncontrol).

The PCE is one arbitrary possibility of many things experienced in the altered-state, like Deja Vu seizure.

The Egodeath theory focuses instead on the experience of Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism (not the Pure Consciousness Event), as the universal cognitive common basis uniting all instances of the intense mythic altered state.

1. Hyper-integration; hyper-connection: Before the modern era, culture is based on psychedelic gnosis, Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism, BUT, all domains are confused and conflated together into a giant mass including the scientifically false Ptolemaic cosmology.

Astrology is the same thing as Psychology.

Psychology is the same thing as Theology.

Philosophy is the same thing as Medicine.

Magic is the same thing as Alchemy, which is the same thing as Science.

Sculpture is the same thing as Engineering.

2. Hyper-differentiation; over-differentiation; under-integration; hypo-connection: In 1675, with the Enlightenment, all domains are completely divorced, torn apart.

Religion is hermetically isolated from Psychology.

Theology has nothing to do with Medicine.

Alchemy is completely distinct from Magic.

Astrology and Chemistry are totally different fields.

Gnosis is lost.

3. Differentiation and integration: Post-Modern era: the Egodeath theory both differentiates and integrates the fields, returning to Gnosis, now fully differentiated and scientifically modelled explicitly, clearly, distinctly.

The Modern way is superior. The Ancients had gnosis in a too-limited way.

The late- or post-Modern type of expression of gnosis — the Egodeath theory — is vastly superior to the Ancient expression of gnosis-religion-philosophy-medicine-magic-astrology-alchemy-psychology-mysticism-engineering.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9330 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: Re: Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis
Was gnosis of psychedelic eternalism/noncontrol lost during the Modern era?

Not lost; possibly attenuated to some extent that is yet to be investigated.

Reinvigorate the psychedelic esoteric Christian tradition.

Were mushrooms in Christianity lost during the Modern era?

Not lost; possibly attenuated to some extent that is yet to be investigated.

McKenna falsely says there were no mushrooms in Christianity — for the Prohibition-for-Profit Establishment, McKenna's falsely mushroom-free Christian history corroborates that mushrooms have no place in real religion (our own religion, what we call "traditional Christianity"), and mushrooms should be illegal even in Christianity (especially in Christianity?)

It is a fatal error to say that our own Christian history during our Modern era lacked mushrooms.

"Agent McKenna" made a fatal error — or propaganda lie — in asserting that our own Christian history during our Modern era lacked mushrooms.

McKenna's proof is to laugh at Allegro's theory that Christianity originally was an encrypted Amanita sex cult.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9331 From: egodeath Date: 15/10/2016
Subject: John Allegro’s theory of psychedelic Christianity
John Allegro's theory of psychedelic Christianity

Christianity started as an encrypted Amanita sex cult!!

In its first few years, Christianity was an Amanita sex cult hiding encrypted behind the figure of Jesus.

After the first few years, people forgot that, and literalized the encrypted writings.

Christianity started as a 1969-type free-love sex cult hiding its 1969-type drug use (of Amanita) from the ancient 1969-type law enforcers, so this Amanita sex cult wrote the gospels, in such a way as to encrypt their practices behind the fictional figure of Jesus, but all later Christians failed to comprehend this hidden description of the Amanita sex cult practices.

As evidence for the above theory, the Plaincourault mushroom tree supports that even later Christians understood and recognized the New Testament as encrypted Amanita sex cult.

Debunker linguistic research reveals the hidden secret that finally, rightly brings down Christianity as we know it:

Christianity started as an encrypted Amanita sex cult!

What Amanita reveals, is that Amanita is an aphrodisiac.

The drug that the most-primitive Christians used was Amanita.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9332 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Repudiating Copernican, returning to Ptolemaic cosmology
The name of the highest of the 3 levels above/outside the sphere of the fixed stars: __
The name of the middle of the 3 levels above/outside the sphere of the fixed stars: __
The name of the lowest of the 3 levels above/outside the sphere of the fixed stars: __
The name of the level of the sphere of the fixed stars: __
Saturn: heimarmene attributes, Saturn eats, the king's child is sacrificed to pass back up through this gate.  Saturn = fixed stars = heimarmene/sacrifice-requiring gate/passageway/bridge/ferry/border-crossing.  [BACKSTAGE DOOR – ON PAIN OF CHARACTER-DEATH, CHARACTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PASS THROUGH THIS DOOR, ONLY ACTORS]
Jupiter: a step away from Eternalism toward falsity and blindness, down toward Possibilism
Mars:
Sun:
Venus: 
Mercury:
Moon: sublunar realm is below this
Fire: element
Air: element
Water: element
Earth: element
Underworld: = heavens, initiation rock cave womb, containing dragon guarding and controlling a well spring, demanding the king sacrifice his maiden daughter, and river source, Hades' destination for ego death shades for illusory egoic freewill ghost steering agents into a phantom possibilities-branching tree.
— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9333 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Against Traditionalism; against the pre-modern grasp of gnosis
Regarding how the Egodeath theory positions 'gnosis', Norma on September 24, 2016 wrote:

Please be careful not to box gnosis into what can sound to some ears like a narrow field..

Remember how Ball thinks non-duality is everything?
There's a spectrum of experience to be considered within the realm of gnosis, all of which is universal in nature…but may vary according to depth as it leads to Eternalism
To go from:
Literalist ordinary state possibilism to Metaphorical Psychedelic Eternalism is not merely the blink of an eye… once time vanishes….well…
From tree to rock
to ground of morrows
time elopes
Group: egodeath Message: 9334 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Decoded: The Forbidden Fruit

Correction: this king-in-a-tree pic is not from Hero, it's from Campbell's Grail book.

I have another pic of a king in a tree to add to the {king/tree} mytheme.

Joseph Campbell

Romance of the Grail: The Magic and Mystery of Arthurian Myth

http://amazon.com/dp/1608683249/

December 15, 2015

Page 105

King in a tree:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/egodeath/photos/albums/89630474

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9335 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)

Catholicism is a corporation, a corporate business.


The Catholic corporation freely re-engineers tradition at-will.


Wasson helped that corporate business by suppressing mushrooms from the Bible and Christianity.


Wasson was the Pope's banker, and director of P. R. for the bank. 

The for-profit corporate business of religion.


Religion as a for-profit corporation product, a way to profit from the fruits of the mushroom Eucharist by strategies including suppressing the authentic, psilocybin Eucharist.


— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9336 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Price/Ehrman debate on ahistoricity
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Dr. Robert Price is a former Baptist minister who holds PhDs in systematic theology and the New Testament. Dr. Price is professor of biblical criticism at the Center for Inquiry Institute, and will assert the Jesus Myth Theory viewpoint – wherein there are flaws with the evidence for a historical Jesus – and will make the case that He is no more than a mythological figure. 
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Speaker for the negative: Robert Price
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Robert Price
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Group: egodeath Message: 9337 From: egodeath Date: 16/10/2016
Subject: Re: Hanegraaff article: Entheogenic Esotericism
Meditation vs. psychedelics
o  Meditation (imagined as nondrug) is supposed to produce changes over a long time of sustained prolonged discipline.
o  Psychedelics are supposed to produce changes instantly.
Neither option is accurate or efficacious.
The true way to gnosis is a *combination of these* false-dichotomy options: Meditation *on psychedelics*, for a long time of sustained prolonged discipline — that is, over an entire series of psychedelic optimal sessions employing skillful utilization such as redosing of short-duration psilocybin.  
Take the entire imagined long path of meditation, then add psychedelics, and subtract the nonsense about instant complete enlightenment.  
Enlightenment experientially, for psychedelic-conformant transformation, requires multiple trip sessions, multiple immersions of the cognitive system within the alchemical 'dissolve and coagulate' cycle applying psilocybic acid.
— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com
Group: egodeath Message: 9339 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Wouter Hanegraaff = king Pentheus
Covert battle of Contextualism against Essentialism
Katz & Hanegraaff = Contextualism
"Eranos Religionism" ~= Essentialism
The evil king declares to any would-be religionist hero-scholars:
There'll be none of that Dionysus religionism Essentialism scholarship in *my* academic kingdom of radical Apollonian Contextualist strict critical historiography!  
Differences between people are everything; any alleged commonalities are all fictions invented as a pretext for oppression.  
Essentialism = oppression.  
Contextualism = pomo-bought freedom; postmodernism surface-only scholarship will set all the unique individual mystics free from any abstracted prison of having anything in common across each others' mystic-state modes.
But Wouter Pentheus' own daughter and mother and sister and grad student women all are already out on the mountain revelling in Dionysian scholarship of gnosis, ignoring Pentheus' assertion that strict critical historiography mandates as normative the methodology of exoteric-only, not at all esoteric, approach to the history of esotericism, or the "history" of "esotericism" (Pentheus' scare-quotes).
Wouter Pentheus' view restricts the mystic experiencing of any one person to a single monolithic mode, as if gnostics only experienced a *single* one of Dan Merkur's typological slots/categories of mysticism, while Catholic mystics have a different particular *single* kind of mystic experiencing, uniformly, unchangingly, always.   
Now king Pentheus tells us "No no, I'm not at all making an a-priori assumption that 
academic scholarship cannot find a universal cognitive altered state basis unifying at the underlying level the various surface expressions of world mystic experiencing [a la Steven Katz's Contextualism]."  
When half his audience stood up and questioned him in aggravated displeasure and disbelief, king Pentheus now tells us he *supports* the possibility of essentially Essentialism.
If academic scholarship can only study the exoteric surface of esotericism, and forbids trying to identify an esoteric core of ancient wisdom and perennial gnosis, then commit king Pentheus' academic scholarship to the flames.
Wouter Pentheus' book Esotericism and the Academy separates into two parts:
Part 1 of the book: Explains the move around 1550 
from Catholic integration of esotericism, 
to Protestant & Enlightenment banishment of esotericism
This part gloriously answered all the built-up questions I had.
Part 2 of the book: The root of all evil, the name of the devil, is Religionism, in academic scholarship.  
This part was vexing, confusing, puzzling, raised lots of questions, half-digested, not ready for publishing.  
Wouter Pentheus must have lost half his audience on this ill-digested point.  
If "Eranos Religionism" is the root of all academic evil, why? 
And is there some potential other esotericism/religionism that academic scholars must identify, that is the good and necessary type of religionism — such as the Egodeath theory (including Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism).
Wouter Pentheus asserts:
Any academic scholar who desires gnosis and transformation is guilty of ignoring historical critical evidence and promulgating gullible pseudo-history.  Another name for Satan/Religionism, is Eranos.  
The future of academic esotericism will be to demonize and ban Religionism, and adhere religously to strict critical historiography.
Eranos Religionism is as unwelcome by Hanegraaff in academic scholarship, as John Allegro's ahistoricity of Jesus is unwelcome by Tom Hatsis in academic psychedelic history scholarship.  
Eranos Religionism = pseudo history, weak and false history in support of a monofocus, a single emphasis, on universal generic abstracted cognitive-based gnosis, unchanging across cultures, = Essentialism, against Steven Katz' Contextualism.
Hanegraaff wrote that he's a Contextualist.
Per Wouter Pentheus, 
To garner respect from the Other Departments, academics must make a great display of public demonizing of any pursuit or interest in the content of gnosis.
We must prove that we are strictly exoteric esotericism scholars, we hate esotericists; we draw a hard boundary between them and us.  
Our subjects drop the acid, we academic scholars scribble in the notebooks in puzzlement.  
That is the academic respectable way that will make the kids in the Other Departments like us.
Our subjects do religion, we do academic scholarship on them.  
We academic scholars do not do religion!  We are anti-esotericism.  
We are exoteric scholars of esotericism who despise esotericism, as false history.  
We scholars of "esotericism" [Pentheus' scare-quotes] must retain the modern academic tradition of disdaining and demonizing as Other, esotericism.
Hanegraaff — ironically — totally continues the modern academic tradition of Othering esotericism, as a threat that contaminates scholarship.
Esotericism as a method of academic research crosses the streams, you mustn't cross the ghost-controlling streams, or the world will fly apart.
Who does Tom Hatsis blacklist?  Psychedelic history researchers who assert the ahistoricity of Jesus.  
King Hanegraaff blacklists Eranos Religionists.  Because of their poor history?  Because of their pursuit of gnosis?  
Why is it so important to prove to donors and funders and Other Departments that we are serious, exoteric-only, strict critical historiographers?  
Because Eranos Religionism in the past has always been associated with gullible, false history.  
We must separate real history from esoteric pseudo-history, even at the cost of losing gnosis. 
As a method of academic scholarship, we must eliminate religion from the religion department and all other departments of modern academic scholarship, in order to understand religion.  
To understand religion, our scholarship must not be religious-type scholarship, but rather, modern scientific, non-normative scholarship (non-normative, regarding religious values).
That's Wouter Pentheus' reasoning, why he casts out the pursuit of gnosis (along with "Eranos Religionism"), why he casts out mystic-experiencing Essentialism, why he casts out the possibility of a universal cognitive basis of intense religious experiencing.
— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com 
Group: egodeath Message: 9340 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Bk: Esotericism and the Academy (Hanegraaff)
Get used to conversions, boundary crossing, threshold transformations; sing a different tune for harmony passing through the snake-guarded danger-gate through the levels up to no-free-will, and the 3 virtual levels above no-free-will, above the sphere of the fixed stars, where you virtually go once you have killed/married/reconciled with the jewel-guarding dragon of no-free-will due to preexistence of the cognitive rivers of control-thoughts frozen in cyberspacetime.
Gnostic marketing materials promise transcending the 4D spacetime block prison, hypertranscending, hyperrational, beyond all language thus beyond all restriction of control.  
Ad copy is cheap.  You can transcend up to 3 levels above heimarmene, like God, as God.  
This implies an answer to the great question of gods vs. fates: God controls Fate, or, is above Fate (above implies controls).
There are variant valuations but the key to mythic sh*t is:
Ptolemaic astral ascent mythicism
+the Egodeath theory 
You can make a hierarchy of mortals, devil, God; lower Creator god vs. high transcendent God; venerating no-free-will/heimarmene-snake, or demonizing it.  
You can assign like Paul in the New Testament the Creator god of the Jews = the high transcendent God.  Then where (in terms of valuation-assignments) is the devil, and mortals?
Is no-free-will good, or bad?  This is a gate to ascend to and in a virtual sense ascend above — not to assert naive unreconstructed egoic freewill Possibilism-thinking.  
After experiencing imprisonment and condemnation to control-chaos, the mind is brought to reconciliation with the dragon, the serpent-shaped threat of the worldline that might contain unavoidable, inescapable control-chaos monster lying 4 minutes into the future. 
 The mind was lured this direction into this attractor-beam trap, by hunting for gnosis, for control-power, drawn by the promise of debugging cross-time control integrity, personal control power.
— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com 
Group: egodeath Message: 9341 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Elixir as the objective of Hero’s Journey
Elixir as the objective of Hero's Journey

Campbell, in 1948, emphasizes elixir as the desired object in Hero's Journey

The central role of the divine elixir of non-dying in Campbell's Hero's Journey cycle

Book:
The Hero with a Thousand Faces
Joseph Campbell
Preface June 1948. 1949; 1968 2nd Ed.; 2008 3rd Ed.

Part 1: The Adventure of the Hero
Chapter 1: Departure
Chapter 2: Initiation
…Section 6: The Ultimate Boon
Chapter 3: Return
Chapter 4: The Keys [summary of the above progression]

Part 2: The Cosmogonic Cycle

The book has lots of Freudian "psychology" noise and "dream" noise, and the book asserts that these are not completely adequate.

I'm going to do a Jefferson Bible number on this book, make good on Campbell's caveat above, and discard all of Campbell's Freudian-psychology passages and dream passages.

There are many good passages, the ones not tainted and contaminated by Freudian psychology.

Heavy-handed Jungian interpretation (at its worst, obscuring and misleading as much as enlightening) hadn't yet been developed so much by 1948, when Campbell was writing.

The section The Ultimate Boon asserts that the boon brought back by the hero in the otherworld journey is an *elixir* of immortality (a-thanatos, non-dying; a-brotos, non-mortal — ambrosia (p. 151)).

The Ultimate Boon is a potion, drug, or elixir, throughout this section, pages 148-165.

The section summarizing Part 1 (the hero-adventure story) is The Keys, page 211, showing a diagram "The HERO'S JOURNEY", which has "elixir" twice: "elixir theft" at the climax of the adventure, and "elixir" at the end, brought back into the normal world.

The boon is "fire-theft, an expansion of consciousness, illumination, transfiguration, …

… The final work is that of the return. … the hero re-emerges from the kingdom of dread. The boon that he brings restores the world (elixir)."

Merging the Campbell hero plot with the Egodeath theory, in the terminology and conceptual vocabulary of the Egodeath theory, the "boon" is gnosis, psychedelic enlightenment about Eternalism/ noncontrol/ preexistence of control-thoughts — somewhat identified with the mushroom.

Mythology focuses more on what the mushroom reveals, than on the mushroom itself.

What the mushroom contains is the whole sequence:

King in tree drinks mushroom wine then struggles, then turns into snake in rock.

The mushroom reveals that your life is a snake embedded in rock.

Mushroom reveals {Snake in Rock}.

boon = mushroom = snake-in-rock = elixir of virtual-only death, death of the accursed ungodly foolish king in a tree, the evil king who sends the hero to bring back the boon, the elixir of immortality/non-dying/virtual-only death/wisdom, the drug of gnosis.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9342 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Cybernetic tarot deck

Cybernetic Conspiracy tarot deck of occult truth


http://www.suzannetreister.net/HEXEN2/TAROT_COL/HEXEN_2_TAROT.html

Group: egodeath Message: 9344 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Good news: Letcher Hatsis' inspirationally bad articles and videos have been un-retracted and are visible again, fixing the 404s in the psychedelic gospels, which were inspired by Muse Hatsis.

http://arspsychedelia.com/the-holy-mushroom.html

Per Muse Hatsis, remember, the people who say there are mushrooms in Christianity don't know what they're talking about. They don't. Especially the psychedelic scholars who assert the ahistoricity of Jesus.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9345 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Given: Academia is committed to Jesus' historicity.

Given: Academia wants to study psychedelics.

Given: Psychedelic scholars, following Allegro, assert ahistoricity of Jesus, along with asserting psychedelics in Christian history.

The Hatsis Strategy to open up psychedelic scholarship in Academia:
Publically and noisily demonize Jesus mythicism. Demonize {mushrooms in Christianity}. Demonize Allegro and anyone else who asserts Jesus' ahistoricity and/or mushrooms in Christianity.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9346 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Agent Irvin wants Agent Brown to point out that Agent Wasson is a CIA agent.
https://youtu.be/cSU8SNvxJGM

http://www.gnosticmedia.com

http://arspsychedelia.com

Agent Hatsis and Agent Irvin are the echo of each other.

Agent Letcher and Agent Hatsis are part of the same intelligence cell, that's why they use the identical bunk argumentation.

Agent Johnson wrote about this around 1895, about monk writer cells in monastic forgery factories, fabricating on an industrial scale the fake textual tradition.

Agent Johnson was reincarnated as Agent Bartram.

— Agent Hoffman, awaiting the report on Agent McKenna from Agent Freakout and Agent Psyber

Group: egodeath Message: 9347 From: egodeath Date: 17/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Jan Irvin is following Joe Atwill's lead in telling people to stop using microdosing and psilocybin, because mind-control ops abused psychedelics.

Irvin is tending and tempted (despite his feeble reassurances) to sensationalistically demonize and criticize psychedelics.

Incoherence; Irvin flatly self-contradicts his own current/recent statements.

Like Hanegraaff, Irvin has to assure people he's not against these chemicals or spirituality or gnosis; he's recognized as crossing the line and turning against psychgnosis.

False dichotomy: sacraments cause psychotomimetic thinking, therefore their spirituality is false.

The Egodeath theory presents the positive and negative attributes in a balanced way consistently.

Hanegraaff and Irvin are inconsistent, incoherent; their theories cannot coherently account for the data.

The mind gains gnosis, mystic enlightenment about Analogical Psychedelic Eternalism, through psychotomimetic cognitive looseners.

Mystic-state analogy rightly integrates temporary madness from psilocybin mushrooms.

Irvin, lopsidedly negative and hypercriticizing, seizes on the psychotomimetic aspect of psychedelic chemicals *as if* that negates the enlightenment gnosis mental reprogramming that results from testing and investigating control-dynamics in the psychotomimetic mystic enlightenment purgatory state of consciousness.

Irvin is stooping to smearing chemicals and misrepresenting the nature of the furies mania psychotomimetic frenzy. Irvin has then had to reassure people that the chemicals have positive potential as well.

SPARE US the Christian-form redemption tale, "I used to favor psychedelics, now I have moral righteous living: only mind-controlled losers use psychedelics", entheogens, psychotomimetics really.

Irvin's logic: Before the CIA, no one experienced psychedelics as spiritual — the proof of that is, people experienced bad trips, therefore chemicals aren't mystically enlightening.

That's a FALSE DICHOTOMY; a failure to theorize.

Irvin's are sub-theoretical, flimsy objections that don't stand when critically examined.

Irvin contradicts himself regarding whether psychedelics can be used for enlightenment, vs. CIA mind control.

Self-contradiction and inconsistency is a common sign of a theory containing errors.

Irvin lopsidedly and disproportionately demonizes psychedelics.

Actually, only 1/3 of trippers go permanently psychotic from the Holy Spirit in the traditional esoteric mushroom Eucharist, in conjunction with reading the Egodeath theory.

The others have a chance of enlightenment without the usual accompanying permanent psychosis, gnosis that we are helpless puppets frozen in Eternalism spacetime, necessitating an attitude of dependence on the uncontrollable controller, creator of preexisting control-thoughts.

Worst case, trippers can always pray to the mythic Mr. Historical Jesus for magic trans-rational rescue.

— Michael

Group: egodeath Message: 9349 From: egodeath Date: 18/10/2016
Subject: Re: Letcher Hatsis retracts no mushrooms in Christianity
Suggestogens: positive feedback is your enemy and your friend to kill (sung "cure") your steering power.

Cybernetic positive feedback loving cup explosion.

Cognitive looseners enable the mind to enter regions of instability and enlightenment, ego suicide and human sacrifice of the child thinking about personal control power steering among branching possibilities.

Power Steering. Steering Power.

I suggestogen thinking about the vulnerability of control upon catching a glimpse of the attractive horrifying monster, the worldline snake that forces control-thoughts upon the mind at each point in the tube of the stream of experiential mental constructs.

Psychotomimetic suggestability of a treasure to be found in the forest of loose cognition, guarded by a dragon monster snake worldline king frozen in rock cave a statue in prison of Minkowski spacetime, William James shielding his eye.

The Egodeath theory is driven by *potentials* of the mind.

In the set and setting of Eucharistic psilocybic loosecog, while thinking about control and mythic analogy, the mind has the potential to short circuit, to suicide cybernetically, to disprove control stability, to transcend the self-preservation mental construct restrictions, to sacrifice the child thinking, in a psychotically clear-headed, untrammelled, pure logical way, without burden of ballast or anchor, sailing into the Sirens' appealing instability region, shipwrecks torn to pieces on the Rock.

The Egodeath theory is about what happens; what happens if; how it works.

What to do to trigger the climax that kills Possibilism-thinking and transforms to the Eternalism experiential worldmodel: suggest suggesting lifting the lid of the basket and seeing how it works: by snake engine, control-rail laid out embedded in spacetime, you ride the roller coaster fastened to the chariot, and the untrustworthy trickster Dionysus is at the reins steering Ariadne's control-thoughts; he's revealed to have been steering her control-thoughts this whole time.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9350 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Reviewer James Woolsey wrote:

Quackademia tries damage control

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3EEEMZA6JL74V/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1620555026

Baby steps by "scholars."

Brown has purportedly been teaching on psychedelics and their history for decades, but only newbies and the naive will think this is therefore "up to date" and the "latest" word on the subject.

The main virtue of the book is that finally we have some decent illustrations in print for the general public.

Ironically, for me [a collector and believer in the historical usage of psychedelics in "higher" levels of all spiritual traditions] the "mushroom" so mind-blowingly apparent on the face of the Green Man does not actually seem so apparent!

But anyone familiar with the beautiful fractal florid visions from mushrooms [unfurling of the "scrolls" as if from a Cornucopia full of jewels] should notice the same creative fountain look to the carvings which cover every inch of Rosslyn Chapel without restraint!

These revelations of God's ever-streamng creative bounty is at the root of WHY such a communion cup such as mushroom wine makes far more sense to be a "proof" of the spiritual life and its reality than the sedative singing of hymns and hearing some priest flap his jaws.

Quackademia is being forced to admit, due to independent scholars, that the standard story of Christianity is being outed.

The authority of "scholars" is being undermined daily as they struggle to keep up, and Brown is an example.

He spends far too much time repeating the now Standard Story of Wasson, and only at the end reveals that Wasson was damage control for the Vatican.

For instance, we know that Brown has spoken with Jan Irvin, praised his scholarship, and said he has read his articles [gnosticmedia.com] yet Brown leaves out entirely that Wasson was head of propaganda dept for J.P. Morgan, CIA insider, and involved in MKUltra experimenting on we the people for Social Control.

Wasson is part and parcel of the same Old Boys Club who have distorted our religious roots (they're the Good Shepherds and we the sheeple).

We have to ask why?

Simple answer is that Academia is far from "independent" but rather, you are controlled by the need to publish, controlled by institutions who are obedient to those who fund them… all the way up the Status Quo ladder.

The Golly Gee Whiz style of "discovery" was stultifying for me.

I guess it's good for newbies, a spoonful of sugar pabulum spoon-feeding.

Alas that is our PC "don't hurt anyone's feelings" general public.

Don't move too fast to upset the Adam-n-Eve and the Apple Cart.

I'm happy to see any step forward in the unravelling of the false history we have been fed.

But until enough folks have been allowed to sip from the true cup and REMEMBER how close God is to us, there will be no revolution by people pissed off at the cheap wine and wafer "Communion" cup rip-off offered up by corporate priestcraft in the Disneyland palaces peopled by Popes and pederists.

They'll be out of the business of mind-control when Joe Average find that God dwells in the humblest of places underfoot everywhere, free for everyone.

/ JW

Group: egodeath Message: 9351 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Site maintenance
I have do do some tasks now to keep the Egodeath site up.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9352 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
The status-quo-collaborationist fake-Meditation industry has the blood of drug Prohibition on its hands.

Academ

Group: egodeath Message: 9353 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Psychedelics for mind control and metaprogramming
The psychedelic movement was fabricated for the government for mind control of its subjects.

Academia was complicit in locking-in literalist Jesus-historicity as an absolute, unquestionable commitment, a mandatory corporate investment.

Academia is complicit in sustaining the purely fraudulent drug Prohibition.

Fake Eastern religion, stripped of its psychedelic source, did its part to be complicit in drug Prohibition.

Thus God covered the eyes of people so that they could live in pseudo-autonomous delusion, the demonic creation of people, puppets disobeying the puppetmaster creator of the worldline snakes.

The puppetmaster said to the Eve puppet do not eat or you will die, but the created puppet snake — controlled by the puppetmaster — has Eve eating.

The puppetmaster makes the puppet disobey, then as punishment, ejects the puppet from the enlightened mushroom garden region, the puppet of God forced to be as if free, thanks to withdrawing the mushroom from the puppet.

Psychedelics empower self-metaprogramming, in a titanic positive feedback loop up to the garden of mushroom Eternalism puppethood awareness.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9354 From: egodeath Date: 19/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
ia too.
Group: egodeath Message: 9355 From: egodeath Date: 20/10/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast commentary
Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, Episode 8 — McKenna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYPWHBmS1g&feature=youtu.be

Comparison between Terence McKenna and Tim Leary

Tension between metaphorical and literal interpretation of McKenna's ideas

McKenna's 'Stoned Ape' theory of human evolution

Brian Aker's Lamarckist criticism of stoned ape theory

Differing views of McKenna's motivations

McKenna's criticism of scientism

McKenna's emphasis on natural drugs and dismissal of LSD

McKenna's feminist ideals

McKenna's analogical model of psychedelic cognition (explicit representationalism)

McKenna's model of time and reverse-causality and its relation to 4D block-universe determinism

McKenna's 'timewave zero' equation

2012 as teleological eschaton

McKenna's idea of accelerating ingression into novelty

Scientistic reliance on inductivist logic

McKenna's DMT induced 'Machine Elves', comparisons with religious myths such as prophet Jacob's wrestling with an angel

McKenna's concept of telepathic communication

McKenna's rejection of psychedelic Christianity via dismissal of John Allegro and Leary's Good Friday experiment

Group: egodeath Message: 9356 From: egodeath Date: 20/10/2016
Subject: Re: Transcendent Knowledge podcast
Transcendent Knowledge Podcast, Episode 8 — McKenna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYPWHBmS1g&feature=youtu.be

Comparison between Terence McKenna and Tim Leary

Tension between metaphorical and literal interpretation of McKenna's ideas

McKenna's 'Stoned Ape' theory of human evolution

Brian Aker's Lamarckist criticism of stoned ape theory

Differing views of McKenna's motivations

McKenna's criticism of scientism

McKenna's emphasis on natural drugs and dismissal of LSD

McKenna's feminist ideals

McKenna's analogical model of psychedelic cognition (explicit representationalism)

McKenna's model of time and reverse-causality and its relation to 4D block-universe determinism

McKenna's 'timewave zero' equation

2012 as teleological eschaton

McKenna's idea of accelerating ingression into novelty

Scientistic reliance on inductivist logic

McKenna's DMT induced 'Machine Elves', comparisons with religious myths such as prophet Jacob's wrestling with an angel

McKenna's concept of telepathic communication

McKenna's rejection of psychedelic Christianity via dismissal of John Allegro and Leary's Good Friday experiment

Group: egodeath Message: 9358 From: egodeath Date: 22/10/2016
Subject: I was the bridge for Acharya/Price
Acharya S emailed me after my Wasson article, strongly thanking me for reconciling her with Robert Price.

The subsequent cooperation between Acharya and Price was directly and mainly enabled by my articles and emails.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9359 From: egodeath Date: 22/10/2016
Subject: Re: I was the bridge for Acharya/Price
I can't critique the reception of the Egodeath theory, because I haven't checked my email since the end of 2007.

— Michael Hoffman, Egodeath.com

Group: egodeath Message: 9360 From: egodeath Date: 22/10/2016
Subject: Re: Price/Ehrman debate on ahistoricity
Group: egodeath Message: 9361 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Re: Book: The Psychedelic Gospels (Brown)
Group: egodeath Message: 9363 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Cognitive/mental constructs vs. materialism/dualism/idealism

Cognitive/mental constructs vs. materialism/dualism/idealism


Modelling cyberdeath requires theory-elements on the level of Loosecog Mental Construct Processing, which is a half-level lower than the level of subjective experiencing.  

The Mental Construct Processing level is the lower portion of the Experiential level which Idealism focuses on.

High level: thinking, feeling, sensing — high-level programming language (memory-managed): C#, Java, interpreted, BASIC, JavaScript

Mid level: Mental Constructs, Mental Construct Processing, Cognition, Cognitive — assembly language, object-oriented software, God-mode programming

Low level: brain, material — machine language, hardware


Modelling cyberdeath requires theory-elements residing on a level slightly below the level of subjective high level experiencing.  The level of multistate Mental Construct Processing, or Loosecog.  

Mental Construct Processing (Cognition) in the loose cognitive binding state.  Loosecog Mental Construct Processing.

My thinking such as 1987 was couched in terms closer to General Semantics and Cognitive Science than to the philosophy of materialism vs. idealism.

Cognitive Science is comparable to Object-Oriented Programming and Design (OOP/OOD).  


Paul Thagard, author of _Conceptual Revolutions_ and _The Cognitive Science of Science_, has written about cognitive representational units, including comparison of modular/"localized" Representationalism (Cognitive Phrenology!, OOP/OOD) vs. distributed Connectionism.


Mental constructs, or cognition, is possibly modelled as representational modules residing on a layer or level above a connectionist layer/level.


In the level above my Mental Construct Processing level, is thinking and feeling and perceiving and sensation and high-level experience.  

By "cognitive" and "mental construct", I retain the feeling of mechanical materialist explanation/modelling, but in the realm of subjective mentation.  

I approach the mental in the style of the physical and OOP/D, using the Conceptual Vocabulary Lexicon of "Mental Constructs", Dynamic Mental Construct Relationship Matrixes (DMCRMs, CRMs, MCs, Mental Construct Processing (MCP)), cognition, Cognitive Processing, Cognitive Modelling.

Thinking and feeling, mood, emotion, bodily sensation, are kinds of mental constructs.

Cognition and Mental Constructs are utilized — for modelling the multistate mind and experience and control — to discuss mental content at a low level that is still within the non-physical realm, more like the software realm.  Low-level in the sense of assembly language, more than machine language or hardware.

Essential to my approach (styled around April 1987) is to conceptualize Mental Constructs in light of Loose Cognitive Binding; that is, dual-state Mental Construct Processing.

Mental Constructs are inherently such that Mental Construct Processing is different in the Tight Cognitive Binding State vs. the Loose Cognitive Binding state.  

Multistate Cognitive Scientists must model mental constructs in two modes: tightcog and loosecog.  

A mental construct has different properties in tightcog vs. in loosecog.

Terminology comes with baggage.  'Determinism' connotes causal-chain determinism operating within an otherwise open-future possibilities-branching world.  

'Gnostics' connotes uniformity and heresy — which April McConick defends, as counterculture; Gnostics *were* profound troublemakers and cosmic monkeywrench throwers.

The term 'psycholytic' would be useful if we can eliminate the baggage of Psychotherapy and (mostly) Low-dose.

The term 'psychedelic' is potentially useful *if* we can establish multiple distinct definitions:

o  'psychedelic' means the particular art style of 1967.

o  'psychedelic' means the same as 'entheogen': it means the universal cognitive esoteric tradition of using visionary plants throughout religious history. Which raises the question of rightly defining 'religion'.  

o  'psychedelic' means Cognitive Binding Loosener; cognitive loosener.

It is a misunderstanding to equate 'psychedelic' with LSD/novel/modern/new.  That's Modern Psychedelic as distinct from Ancient Psychedelic.

Discard the idea that it's an anachronism to speak of "Ancient Psychedelic", "psychedelics in antiquity", and "pre-Modern psychedelics".  Who the hell *says* "you can't do that, we have to have the word 'entheogen' instead"?

The primitive Christians were psychedelic tripping and that is NOT an anachronism; primitive Christians and the gnostic "currents" and mystery religions understood themselves to be tripping on psychedelics.  

Time machine, ask them, Are you tripping on psychedelics?"  "Yes."  

We giggle when we apply 1970s acid jargon to ancients, but that's a misunderstanding of the ancients.  

It is no coincidence that 1970s trippers use the same kinds of language as pre-Modern religionists, who were identical to today's "encrypted Amanita sex cult" practitioners of 1970, hiding from the 1970-type drug squads of 50 AD.  To put it in Allegro's crude, first-attempt conceptual vocabulary.

Modern and ancient trippers use equivalent descriptive vocabulary of analogy and metaphor.  

The primitive Christians were tripping on psychedelic drugs, and they speak the advanced analogy vocabulary of describing advanced dynamics of tripping repeatedly, disciplined, mental purification through tripping on psychedelics.  

The "Heaven, Hell, Garden-Wedding-Banquet" sequence:

First, the pleasant foretaste of full mental transformation.  Martin Ball's 1987-era conceptualization of enlightenment as unity nondual oneness experiencing, with the alien, foreign, threatening Shadow held at bay.

Then, the bad trip of wrestling to gain and secure full mental transformation, getting a blessed way of thinking that stands in light of noncontrol and preexistence of control-thoughts. 

Finally, ever after, the wedding banquet trip party within the guarded gate, as the ongoing state after full sufficient mental purification to allow setting foot in this region of hyperawareness of pre-givenness of thoughts.

This I dub the "Heaven Hell Garden" sequence.  First a taste of heaven, trespassing; then being thrown out and wrestling back into Heaven rightly; finally, purified, freely go in and out of the cyberdeath-guarded gate in peace.

The word 'entheogen' is a useful abbreviation of the phrase 'psychedelic history'; the history of psychedelics in religion and culture.  

The word 'entheogen' doesn't mean or imply anything more than the phrase "psychedelics throughout history".  

The word 'entheogen' is an exact synonym of the phrase "psychedelics throughout history".  'Entheogen' simply means the historical dimension of psychedelics; psychedelics conceptualized as the driving force throughout religious history.

Religion is psychedelic drug chemicals inducing the loose cognitive binding state, which — when sustained and developed efficiently — changes the mental worldmodel from Literalism Ordinary-state Possibilism (open-future steering power) to Analogy Psychedelic Eternalism/noncontrol (pre-existence of the single future and all control-thoughts at all points in time throughout the tunnel/snake of your entire life).  

This transformation is described both directly and by analogy, as in religious mythology.

— Michael Hoffman, 

Group: egodeath Message: 9364 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Re: Psilocybin as an Inducer of Ego Death
This bizarre, bad, fumbling, weirdly written article does pair with the preceding article by Jennifer Lyke in a profound way.

Lyke presents the first phase of psychedelic exposure, as producing the positive initial come-on and attraction experience.  
The initial marketing phase, in which psilocybin initially delivers-up experiences of God-mode cognition.
The Psilocybin Ego Death article is correct in its driving, overarching point, regardless of how bizarrely the article conveys the point.  
After the initial "delusion" of unity consciousness (according to the article), A WARNING *IS* IN ORDER.  
When it's your time I wonder how you'll do
The little doll is you, yeah
Your fate is in his hands
*Eventually*, after furthur purification, the mind is in peace moving in and out of the garden through the cyberdeath-guarded-gate.  
All who pass through this door from the stage to backstage, must sacrifice their mask, the character must die in order for the actor to look through and pass through the door to the area behind the stage.
First you experience the sensation of unity consciousness, while still retaining impurity (the delusion of Literalist Ordinary-state *Possibilism*) that triggers evil: cybernetic control-chaos.
Then, pursuing desirable clear thinking, you experience panic, control instability, the control chaos serpent-monster threat, wrestling, struggle, transformation for blessed thinking that can remain standing in light of loosecog control-dynamics frozen in spacetime.  It'll be a quick trip, that never ends.
Then you reach the end-state, of full coherent viable transformation of thinking to Analogicity Psychedelic *Eternalism*/noncontrol, tripping hard in the cyberdeath-guarded gate region during timeless eternity ever after.
— Michael Hoffman, Head Exorcist, University of Transcendent Knowledge
Group: egodeath Message: 9365 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Re: 2015 International Drug Reform Conference, entheogen enlightenme
Nadelmann's September 2016 talk for the California legalization and for-profit industry.  Tithe profits to support repeal of all drug Prohibition.

Ethan Nadelmann – Drug Policy Alliance (DPA)

 


Group: egodeath Message: 9366 From: egodeath Date: 23/10/2016
Subject: Misc. mythic sh*t: Abbreviation of metaphors

The angel touched the mushroom to the prophet's lips, and immediately the prophet spoke rightly of things goddish.


There is a spectrum of analogy from extremely straightforward (mushrooms make the blind see) to extremely hyper-extended (a mystic is able to fly, cure anything, harness demons to put them to work, use potions as a love philter to have anyone.  


The mind goes from outsider literalism, to straightforward analogyism (moderate mythmaking), to over-the-top farce (analogy taken to untenable comic extremes, pushing the analogy past the breaking point, for clever comic effect).


The transmission of ancient wisdom was done by spiritual transmission from guru to disciple, by handing a mushroom.


One tab, instant enlightenment.


mushroom = full pure understanding of the Egodeath theory; of mental worldmodel transformation to metaphoric/analogy psychedelic Eternalism/noncontrol.  


Comical abbreviation:  In short, the moment you see or touch the mushroom, the tab, instant salvation, regeneration, full transmission of Holy Spirit.  

The noncompressed form: some 10 sessions of mushroom redosing, in conjunction with a Semester at University in Higher Higher Education, in super-ergonomic Modern-era form, with short-lasting 4-ACE (1 hour) used with redosing, while studying the Egodeath theory, gives relatively instant enlightenment.  

You merely have to pop the drop, to get the full message, in 1 hour.  

That's true as an *idea*, instant enlightenment through fully efficacious psychedelic drug plants, but the literal reality is that mental worldmodel transformation and building up an adequate model of the old and new worldmodels, of kingly steering of the ship Nebuchadnezzar into the future, takes some duration.

This sort of comic abbreviation occurs in Jonah.  He warns the king in telegraphically abbreviated form, and the king and animals put on fervent sackcloth, to Jonah's displeasure.

The single unit of psychedelics *does* give the initial *feeling* of nondual unity nondual God-consciousness. 

That's right before the worldline snake bites the foundational heel, the basis of control-model that the mind depends on.

1. Nondual unity, yes, says acid.

2. Then says acid, personal Possibilism-based control steering power within a multipossibility branching world — no.  Fail.  

The mind above all desires a satisficing demonstrable failure of Possibilism-premised control-power over the incoming control-thoughts.  

The mind innately wants to, in an organized and full way, eject and jettison the impure thinking which is bringing evil that is summoning the control-chaos worldline-snake monster, needing powerful biased god-thinking — which must be acceptable to high rationality.

Only that, can satisfy the transcendent-thinking desire, the desire to trip control-power and demonstrate knowing how to trigger and summon the limits and make control-grasping backfire and seize, to God-thinking-possessed, full rational satisfaction (which mere acting-out "out of control" cannot satisfy).

Jesus' complicated drawn-out magical performance?  He says "leave", the demon leaves immediately.  Drama-club occultists would be disappointed at the lack of play.  

My exorcisms are the most effective and boring.  I cure sickness overall, regardless of analogy-suitability; I make the deaf hear (clear analogy), I make the crippled walk, the blind see (all clear analogies), I stop the maiden bleeding to death as the tripper is on the path to certain destruction, predicably, a life-terminating disaster remembered deja vu sitting on the worldline ahead.

The snake monster is remembered that at this point on my worldline snake ride, this is remembered as the point at which the worldline snake realization is approaching, the desirous child opens the basket lid, sees the attactive snake behind the mask, and, shocked, falls off the mountain to their death.

Beginner analogy: I make the blind see.  Analogy by extension (analogy-extreme-extension): I cure the maiden bleeding to death, I cure whatever, in general.  

The maiden surely inevitably bleeding to death, this direction of god-thinking on mushrooms is seen as surely leading to cyberdeath.  That still is solvable analogy.  

Then, extend the analogy to ailments with no clear analog to Cybernetic Eternalism dynamics — that is the advanced level of myth-speaking, psychedelic myth-literacy — where you switch back into emphatically literalist-sounding mythmaking:

Advanced analogy-play or hyper-extension:  I am clairvoyant.  I have ESP, the paranormal; psychokinesis — such claims, now jumping outside of plain analogies, to make jokes pretending to be literalist, jokes to confound literalists who know not the analogy-game in its plain/simple and hyper (exagerrated analogy) modes.  

Mythic tall-tales taken so far, they leave the ring of plain simple analogy, becoming free-flying mythic-altered-state tall-tales.  Hyperbolic mythic analogy.  

The evil king puts prophets in furnace with lions (straight analogy).  

Earthquake, chains fall, the prophets walk out of the jail, converting the jailer — ventures beyond plain analogy, toward incredible hyper-analogy.

Not only do I cast out Possibilism-demons (easy to understand by analogy); now I am even better than the competitors: I cause lost limbs to re-grow (that's more of a transcending of the analogy-game).  

How far the rules of the mythic analogy-game can be pushed to comic extremes.

— Professor Loosecog, Head Exorcist, University of Transcendent Knowledge

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